Mard (Vinci) vs The_Magician (Alin) Map : Umberto Lowlands | Game time 44min
Game Summary : This was a decent Vinci vs Alin game vs 2 players that will be struggling to get into the top 40 TELO spots : Mard goes for a very strong early economy and just booms with and goes for pirata raiding while The_Magician goes for a fast level 2 Sawu followed by a fast large and fast great city time to get treasure 4 and evoc 4 . The_Magician hurts Mard's army and kills a few miners but Mard's strong economy can surely take a hit , after the first fight we only see some pirata raiding for the next 10 min and once Mard gets great city and a doge hammer he goes on the offensive , Mard kills most of The_Magician's army with the doge hammer but is send to retreat after summoning evoc 4 and some free units coming from circles. The_Magician takes a big risk at this point and invests everything he has in the glass dragon . Mard pushes on and captures a city but retreats at the first glance of the glass dragon. After that both players just mass army with some pirata raids from Mard until the big clash of the army's that will seal the fate of one of these civilizations
Mard (Vinci) Build Order : Merchant > Merchant > Industrial > Industrial Tech Order : Prosperity 1 + 2 > Mining 1 Initial Start : Use CWminers to boom economy while buying some neutrals .
Player Summary and Tips : - You had excellent scouting and grabbed most of the relics very fast , the entire map was scouted in no time. - Your buildup needs some work , overbuilding miners and even more importantly adding a second mine while your already capped is a waste of timonium and slowed your large city down a lot . If you like the start with 5 CWminers you don't even need to build any miners , just a mine with the CWminers is enough for 195-200 timo income. If you want to go for a 250 econ you can quickly make a few more miners from 2 mines. - His Sawu rush came pretty late and I fear faster Sawu rushers can hurt you pretty badly since you wont have piratas yet and even more if they spam scorp+HS early large city . Try to get a faster large city time or a hero . - Your pirata raiding from 5-15 min was excellent , you killed many caravans but you even could have killed more of them! Specially late game you could have raided more and better you had between 10-15 piratas they could easily take care of circles and caravans , the cliff on umberto lowlands is fantastic for piratas since nearly all the caravans pass over there so try to abuse it more , he hardly made sanddragons so you had the sky's to yourself not counting the glass dragon but hes slower and can only be at 1 place - After you purchase a city reset your caravan route to a new neutral building . - Your positioning of your steam fort was awful , you could have builded it close to 1 of the 2 neutral city's which would have given you a free city and a place close to his city's to multifront and siege him in. - Your scouts where idle in friendly territory , for all you know he could have been taking over those neutral city's without you knowing . - After he tried the magic wind raid with Sawu you really should have killed him , I cant believe you let him escape with 50 hp when you got 8 air units with FOTM. - A general hint when it comes to the glass dragon being build and if you know if you killed the right circle is take a good look at the resource dominance , once you kill a circle and a few seconds later his resource dominance jumps back to full you know you killed the right circle , if it doesn't fill up better keep searching. - Why , Why , Why! did you run from his glass dragon + sawu , he had no army , the glass dragon had zero upgrades and you just retreat and let him have the city back and get all the upgrades for it and you just sit their making army . A glass dragon without upgrades is cannon fodder and your army would have owned him , just spread your units around a bit so his glass fury doesn't kill most of it and after that just attack him , in the worst case you lose most of your army and the dragon uses its healing , however your econ is nearly twice as good and you can quickly replace your army , this is the only reason you lost this game. - When you screamed attrition it surely wasn't attrition that did all that damage , it was glass shock , this special attack is underrated but its great vs low hp units like piratas or miners or something , when his glass dragon flies in the middle of your piratas just run next time - You probably didn't see his glass dragon shooting its glass fury in the last battle but its kinda sad when you got a cease fire and a nullfier ready for action and lose nearly your entire army to 1 blast.
Player Score : 6/10 You played well but being passive wont win you any games , bigger army better economy the entire game and yet you werent attacking!
The_Magician (Alin)
Build Order : Magus > Merchant > Merchant > Merchant > Palace Tech Order : Treasure 1 +2 Initial Strat : Fast level 2 Sawu to take over a neutral city quickly followed by a attack on the enemy's economy.
Player summary and Tips : - Your scouting really needs work , watch some games from other Alin players . - Good job on the first battle , you killed all his infantry and a couple of miners . - His Pirata raids where a real menace for you , spread out your heartseekers a bit more and try to delete your caravans before they die , he gained 53 gold for every caravan he killed . A eternal flame would have come in handy as well. - Use your army! It was sitting idle the entire game really , at least take over a neutral city or something! - While using Sawu in magic winds to go raid is great , its kind off dangerous to say the least to send him in the middle of his territory with a bunch of piratas flying over his head - Same as Mard , position your glass fortress better so it at least catches you a city and can defend it. - Decent use of the glass dragon , while you only used him defensively , both his glass fury's won you the game. - Great use off glass shock , many people underrate this special , you need the dark glass upgrade for it which is also a great tech for its corruption. - Work on your economy , you where down a lot in income even with treasure , the timonium mine in front of your west city coupled with a eternal flame would have been helpful.
Overall its very hard to give comments since you where extremely passive the entire game and its mainly just the dragon that won you the game.
Player Score : 5,5/10 Yes , you get a lower rate despite the win , you where just to passive the entire game .
Educational score : 5/10 Hardly any new stuff here a booming Vinci vs a fast techning Alin to evoc 4 and a glass dragon . Entertainment score : 5/10 Besides the pirata raids and 2 battles there wasn't much to see . Game score : 5/10
This post has been edited by EPIC|Perfection: Oct 23 2006, 13:50 PM
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Mard (Vinci) vs The_Magician (Alin)
Map : Umberto Lowlands | Game time 44min
Game Summary :
This was a decent Vinci vs Alin game vs 2 players that will be struggling to get into the top 40 TELO spots : Mard goes for a very strong early economy and just booms with and goes for pirata raiding while The_Magician goes for a fast level 2 Sawu followed by a fast large and fast great city time to get treasure 4 and evoc 4 .
The_Magician hurts Mard's army and kills a few miners but Mard's strong economy can surely take a hit , after the first fight we only see some pirata raiding for the next 10 min and once Mard gets great city and a doge hammer he goes on the offensive , Mard kills most of The_Magician's army with the doge hammer but is send to retreat after summoning evoc 4 and some free units coming from circles. The_Magician takes a big risk at this point and invests everything he has in the glass dragon .
Mard pushes on and captures a city but retreats at the first glance of the glass dragon.
After that both players just mass army with some pirata raids from Mard until the big clash of the army's that will seal the fate of one of these civilizations
Mard (Vinci)
Build Order : Merchant > Merchant > Industrial > Industrial
Tech Order : Prosperity 1 + 2 > Mining 1
Initial Start : Use CWminers to boom economy while buying some neutrals .
Player Summary and Tips :
- You had excellent scouting and grabbed most of the relics very fast , the entire map was scouted in no time.
- Your buildup needs some work , overbuilding miners and even more importantly adding a second mine while your already capped is a waste of timonium and slowed your large city down a lot . If you like the start with 5 CWminers you don't even need to build any miners , just a mine with the CWminers is enough for 195-200 timo income. If you want to go for a 250 econ you can quickly make a few more miners from 2 mines.
- His Sawu rush came pretty late and I fear faster Sawu rushers can hurt you pretty badly since you wont have piratas yet and even more if they spam scorp+HS early large city . Try to get a faster large city time or a hero .
- Your pirata raiding from 5-15 min was excellent , you killed many caravans but you even could have killed more of them!
Specially late game you could have raided more and better you had between 10-15 piratas they could easily take care of circles and caravans , the cliff on umberto lowlands is fantastic for piratas since nearly all the caravans pass over there so try to abuse it more , he hardly made sanddragons so you had the sky's to yourself not counting the glass dragon but hes slower and can only be at 1 place
- After you purchase a city reset your caravan route to a new neutral building .
- Your positioning of your steam fort was awful , you could have builded it close to 1 of the 2 neutral city's which would have given you a free city and a place close to his city's to multifront and siege him in.
- Your scouts where idle in friendly territory , for all you know he could have been taking over those neutral city's without you knowing .
- After he tried the magic wind raid with Sawu you really should have killed him , I cant believe you let him escape with 50 hp when you got 8 air units with FOTM.
- A general hint when it comes to the glass dragon being build and if you know if you killed the right circle is take a good look at the resource dominance , once you kill a circle and a few seconds later his resource dominance jumps back to full you know you killed the right circle , if it doesn't fill up better keep searching.
- Why , Why , Why! did you run from his glass dragon + sawu , he had no army , the glass dragon had zero upgrades and you just retreat and let him have the city back and get all the upgrades for it and you just sit their making army . A glass dragon without upgrades is cannon fodder and your army would have owned him , just spread your units around a bit so his glass fury doesn't kill most of it and after that just attack him , in the worst case you lose most of your army and the dragon uses its healing , however your econ is nearly twice as good and you can quickly replace your army , this is the only reason you lost this game.
- When you screamed attrition it surely wasn't attrition that did all that damage , it was glass shock , this special attack is underrated but its great vs low hp units like piratas or miners or something , when his glass dragon flies in the middle of your piratas just run next time
- You probably didn't see his glass dragon shooting its glass fury in the last battle but its kinda sad when you got a cease fire and a nullfier ready for action and lose nearly your entire army to 1 blast.
Player Score : 6/10
You played well but being passive wont win you any games , bigger army better economy the entire game and yet you werent attacking!
The_Magician (Alin)
Build Order : Magus > Merchant > Merchant > Merchant > Palace
Tech Order : Treasure 1 +2
Initial Strat : Fast level 2 Sawu to take over a neutral city quickly followed by a attack on the enemy's economy.
Player summary and Tips :
- Your scouting really needs work , watch some games from other Alin players .
- Good job on the first battle , you killed all his infantry and a couple of miners .
- His Pirata raids where a real menace for you , spread out your heartseekers a bit more and try to delete your caravans before they die , he gained 53 gold for every caravan he killed . A eternal flame would have come in handy as well.
- Use your army! It was sitting idle the entire game really , at least take over a neutral city or something!
- While using Sawu in magic winds to go raid is great , its kind off dangerous to say the least to send him in the middle of his territory with a bunch of piratas flying over his head
- Same as Mard , position your glass fortress better so it at least catches you a city and can defend it.
- Decent use of the glass dragon , while you only used him defensively , both his glass fury's won you the game.
- Great use off glass shock , many people underrate this special , you need the dark glass upgrade for it which is also a great tech for its corruption.
- Work on your economy , you where down a lot in income even with treasure , the timonium mine in front of your west city coupled with a eternal flame would have been helpful.
Overall its very hard to give comments since you where extremely passive the entire game and its mainly just the dragon that won you the game.
Player Score : 5,5/10
Yes , you get a lower rate despite the win , you where just to passive the entire game .
Educational score : 5/10 Hardly any new stuff here a booming Vinci vs a fast techning Alin to evoc 4 and a glass dragon .
Entertainment score : 5/10 Besides the pirata raids and 2 battles there wasn't much to see .
Game score : 5/10
This post has been edited by EPIC|Perfection: Oct 23 2006, 13:50 PM
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