Battle for Middle Earth

This topic is for Church and sueffkopp only.

Heya im matt, i live in australia.

I think im mentoring u in rohan so lets get this undeway.



Well here is a collection of Rohan reps here:

-ChuRcH-'s QuickMatch Diary- You can find many maps with all matchups with me playing rohan there.

here is where all Rohan Guides are so have a look adn read through them.

If you want to post and questions or replays ill watch them and give u a few tips on how to improve.

This post has been edited by -ChuRcH-: Feb 28 2009, 00:25 AM

Hi Matt .
I will post some reps the next days, I will play Rohan-only now.
And I like your diary.

edit:
Some days ago I lost onhost to a ~140 Isen on Rohan Map. Do you have a ownage replay vs a good player or any tips how I can own isen quickly on this imba map?

This post has been edited by sueffkopp: Feb 28 2009, 19:54 PM

here is one offhost im still tryin to find onhost.



This post has been edited by -ChuRcH-: Feb 28 2009, 23:16 PM

No Need thank you.
I'm gonna watch this and it will be fine.
Onhost/Offhost isn't that important on this map imo (vs FoD).

well next im goign to teach you hwo to walkcheck

I know how to wallcheck... Why do you think I don't know?
btw i broke top 500 today with my Rohan Nick.(70%Host)

This post has been edited by sueffkopp: Mar 2 2009, 18:47 PM

Good Job

Please post all your replays here for me too watch and give you tips+

please communicate and tell me wat u want to learn.

Yes, I just lost one.
My wallcheck missed ( usually it doesn't) and I thought he was FoD. My peasents gave him rank 2 soldiers and he got 4 creeps. I managed to get Eomer rank 4 but I didn't have a chance because he got MC all the time. Usually I don't have problems this Matchup.

	rvG_FoI_sueffkopp_vs_bananenbrot.rep
	Size: 80.01k
	Number of downloads: 57
	Player Name	Side	Team
	sueffkopp*		1
	Bananenbrot		2

Ill take a look.

well waht really mucked you up was misswall checking leading to wrong pathways which make it unchangable.

but here is a few tips:

• Dont ever fight rank 2 soldiers with jsut rank 1 peasants
• dont use so many peasants when vsing Gondor or Rohan on Fords
• get upgrades before eomer, if you had you would have had them at the same time as him
• always get armour before forged blades
• always have more horses than you opposition does, so that you can harass farms while confronting his units.

Here is my pathways on Fords vs FoL



Green = Merry
Red = Starting Peasent
Pink = Peasent from inside farms


And here is some replays showing my pathways.

	vs_Rohan_on_Foi.rep
	Size: 31.04k
	Number of downloads: 54
	Player Name	Side	Team
	Tr0LL^L3m4eR*		1
	TheGreatStar		2

Hope this helps

Ok thx. I usually use the same. Could you post this pic in raw form so that I can paint my starting pathways vs each fraction? I want to hear your opionion.

There u go

I describe you the way I play vs each fraction now.
Vs Gondor:

Pathways:


I want to prevent him from creeping and take down at least one farm.
Buildorder early game:
2 Farms inside
1 Farm out
2 peasents inside
1 Farm out
eventually more peasents

Then I usually go stables, make 5 rohirrim and save for entthing.
I entrush when I have at least 4 creeps and Mapcontrol all time.
Then I get armory and theo, and rush his base with them. If he still survives this maybe because of summon elves+fara who kill my theo, I just retreat after kickin zita again, revive theo and get aragorn. This should be enough to finish him

But of course, things can go wrong like in the replay I posted. Then my strat is eomer to ups and theo, then hopefully lego and ara, fire and RAs. But it is hard to win when gandalf is out imo.

Vs Isen

Buildorder early game:
2 Farms inside
1 Farm out
2 peasents inside
1 Farm out
More peasents

Stables, 3 rohirrim, ups, theo, then maybe aragorn or enthing.
This is one of my weakest Matchups though, I will challenge Miho in ESL the next days and post replay.

Vs Mordor

2 Farms inside
1 Farm out
2 peasents inside
1 Farm out

Stables, 3 rohirrim, Aragorn, Enthing, fire

I don't play this so often. If he gets too many creeps, and I know he will have too many trolls, I am trying the Eomer LD, GC, RA strat.

Vs Rohan

2 Farms inside
1 Farm out
2 peasents inside
1 Farm out
At least 2 more extra peasents

I try to creep on my side with merry and extrapeasents, and harass him with 1 starting bat and maybe extra peasents.

Stables, 3 Rohirrim, armory, another rohirrim, armor, blades, Theo, Eomer, Aragorn/Legolas

I have problems if my opponent rushes Legolas, because he ranks so fast and is hard to kill with rohirrim. He comes out when I just got armor. I think I just have to dodge him and then attack with 3 FU rohirrim+theoden, when his rank is still low, but somehow he causes me troubles.

I only used the pic for gondor because I always use the same here. But I use many different pathways vs Isengard and Mordor.
What do you say about my gameplay?

This post has been edited by sueffkopp: Mar 7 2009, 16:13 PM

dont use to many peasants vs mordor its better to get quicker horses.

and i think its better if you get a few replays for me, then i can really acess your gameplay. SO just post all ur reps plz

Ownage; I didn't have a good start, because I was passive. This guy tried to entrush me followed by aragorn, but I had GC, so gg... His rank was above 10000, so a noob.

	rvR__Rohan_Heartolearn_vs_sueffkopp.rep
	Size: 37.48k
	Number of downloads: 51
	Player Name	Side	Team
	HeartoLearn		1
	sueffkopp*		2

Just played another Rohan Mirror. Maybe I would have had a chance without lagg, but I lost one horse early and later theo. I didn't have a chance then.

	Rvr__SI__ferner_vs_sueffkopp.rep
	Size: 68.5k
	Number of downloads: 60
	Player Name	Side	Team
	F|E|R|N|E|R		1
	sueffkopp*		2

This noob here quitted early

	Rvg__West_Emnet_sueffkopp_vs_a_noob.rep
	Size: 10.69k
	Number of downloads: 62
	Player Name	Side	Team
	sueffkopp*		1
	Firebody1		2

Ownage replay vs a gondor on fords. He had a rank ~750, so not bad.He tried to creep, but I could steal it. Then he fararushed and saved one of his farms and could get the other one back. Still, I got 5 creeps and entrushed him no problem.

	Rvg__FoI__sueffkopp_vs_Anvalluh.rep
	Size: 30.76k
	Number of downloads: 55
	Player Name	Side	Team
	sueffkopp*		1
	Aanvalluhh		2

Here I didn't play concentrated and got bashed by a rank 500 Isengard. But I don't think it was Butta, because my opponent made many mistakes, too.

	rvI__Eastern__sueffkopp_vs_KingZ_Buttafly.rep
	Size: 81.64k
	Number of downloads: 62
	Player Name	Side	Team
	sueffkopp*		1
	KingZ|Buttafly		2

Vs a bad Mordor on Fangorn. I know I could have played way better. He DC'ed after loosing his army. I got to make a topic in cheater section right now.

	Cursedskeleton_DC.rep
	Size: 55.76k
	Number of downloads: 53
	Player Name	Side	Team
	sueffkopp*		1
	Cursedskeleton		2

This post has been edited by sueffkopp: Mar 8 2009, 18:03 PM

ill take alook

And here is it, the replay vs Miho's Gondor. I lost my nerves and didn't entrush.

	rvG__FoI__sueffkopp_vs_miho.rep
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	Number of downloads: 49
	Player Name	Side	Team
	sueffkopp*		0
	Lem0nParty		0

Loss vs Palla.

	Gvr__Dunharrow__Palla_vs_sueffkopp.rep
	Size: 120.21k
	Number of downloads: 57
	Player Name	Side	Team
	Pallari		1
	sueffkopp*		2

Win vs Ryze's Mordor on Rohan.

	mvR__Rohan__Ryze_vs_sueffkopp.rep
	Size: 68.31k
	Number of downloads: 56
	Player Name	Side	Team
	i`UsE`TouChPaD^		1
	sueffkopp*		2

This post has been edited by sueffkopp: Mar 10 2009, 18:14 PM